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Post by sikri06 on May 23, 2015 7:36:19 GMT -5
He could finish SILENCE by the end of the year sure, but I don't see the movie getting released until 2016. Unlike 2014, the last two months of the 2015 are just too crowded this high quality releases. Spectre, The Peanuts Movie, The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part II (the concluding chapter of the series), Creed, Pixar's The Good Dinosaur, Ridley Scott's The Martian, Jeff Nichols Midnight Special, X-Mas, Ron Howard's In the Heart of the Sea, Sisters, Oliver Stone's Snowden, David O. Russell's next Jennifer Lawrence/Bradley Cooper movie Joy, Quentin Tarantino's 70mm epic The Hateful Eight & some small indie called Star Wars: Episode 7 - The Force Awakens. Almost all of the movies you mention are not competition for Silence. Blockbusters compete with other blockbusters, they don't compete with indies. That's because the crossover appeal between The Peanut Movie and Silence is minimal to non-existent. You can't imagine a scenario where a father is trying to decide whether he should take his eight year old kid to see The Good Dinosaur or Silence. The choice is obvious. Star Wars has Adam Driver, so if anything Silence would be helped by fanboys wanting to check out Adam Driver in anticipation of The Force Awakens.
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Post by ScorseseFan on May 24, 2015 2:22:53 GMT -5
No. But if the average film goer who sees 6 movies a year - i.e the average people who REALLY keep the movie business afloat - decides to splurge & see two movies at Christmas Silence is really going to fight for that audience. The audience that will give the $51 million feature a profit.
Plus you know what else keeps the movie industry afloat? The theaters themselves. Real estate at movie theaters drastically increases in price during the summer & christmas season because that's when theaters really make their movie. If a theater has only 8 screens they're gonna want to get main capital return on every one of those eight screens during the Holiday season. If a movie isn't delivering the same revenue on a day to day in November & December that the bigger movies pulls in they're going to be quicker to dump a film than they would the other 10 months of the year. November-December is a small window when attendance at theaters sees a sharp spike up.
As a studio they're number one job is to assure that Scorsese's film finds an audience & has the chance to turn a profit. Dropping a heavy, dark religious chamber piece into a pool with family friendly sharks in a family friendly season is a dumb move. P.T. Anderson was right when he told New Line not to release 'Boogie Nights' as counter-programming to 'The Lost World: Jurassic Park" back in 1997 as was their original plan because "No one is going to see Boogie Nights instead of Jurassic Park 2". It's the same story this season. Even if 'Silence' is released this November/December it's gonna be competing against a new QT movie, a new David O. Rusell movie (American Hustle did hurt Wolf of Wall Street's box office in the long run) & a timely Snowden movie.
But hey, if the studio wants Silence to have a similar theatrical run to Scorsese's "Bringing Out the Dead" - budget: $55 million, total theatrical gross: $16.7 million - then they should rush the movie out to theaters before December 31st. It can be done. But there won't be a chance in hell they'll make any inkling of a profit.
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Post by sikri06 on May 24, 2015 7:14:35 GMT -5
The problem is that you mentioned a ton of blockbusters that doesn't compete with Silence in any way. The audience who only watches 6 movies a year is the blockbuster crowd. They are never gonna watch Silence no matter where you put it. Those who wants to see Star Wars opening week would never watch Silence anyway, so it's not competition for it. The same goes for the teenage audience of Hunger Games. We don't have the exact release schedule for Silence and I would imagine that it will get a slow roll out by opening it in limited release perhaps until January.
That's what happens with most awards targeted films without any stars. Release dates are not particularly important for those as they don't rely heavily on their opening weekends like blockbusters do. Another reason why you shouldn't compare it to blockbusters. Otherwise awards season would be a slaughter house every year, as family blockbusters opens up against awards fodder. It doesn't happen, they are always living just fine next to each other, because they appeal to different crowds.
The competition from awards contenders could be Snowden as you mention, but I doubt it. Stone has not made a good movie in 7 years and nobody really wants to watch a movie about Snowden. The subject is more likely to scare an audience away as something they just know they won't like. There is a 90% chance it is gonna bomb IMHO.
Then there is Joy and Hateful Eight, but if they open at Christmas like planned they won't compete with Silence scheculed to an opening a whole month prior.
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Post by nas78 on Jul 3, 2015 14:06:06 GMT -5
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Post by arnzilla on Jul 27, 2015 12:27:35 GMT -5
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Post by ScorseseFan on Jul 27, 2015 12:46:49 GMT -5
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Post by Zotyto on Jul 27, 2015 19:21:24 GMT -5
That Wikipedia page is probably written by some of you guys.
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Post by arnzilla on Jul 28, 2015 0:01:36 GMT -5
It is now.
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Post by arnzilla on Jul 28, 2015 0:05:45 GMT -5
Just in case some know-it-all changes it...
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Post by sikri06 on Jul 28, 2015 6:58:11 GMT -5
One - SILENCE is still most likely going to be a 2016 release. This Fall & Winter season is already too jam-packed with high profile releases. Quite the opposite actually. Paramount doesn't have much for the fourth quarter and the question is really if they will get The Big Short or Silence ready for the holiday season. A holiday season that looks pretty empty, because everyone is afraid to go up against Star Wars. Steve Jobs and Bridge of Spies opens as early as October. When we get to December there is only In the Heart Of The Sea, Concussion and Joy (The rest is so weak that it isn't worth noticing). That's very few releases compared to how much money there is to be made in that period and usually there are more releases than currently planned. And Paramount definitely want to take advantage of that by getting either Silence or The Big Short ready for December.
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Post by sikri06 on Jul 28, 2015 7:07:23 GMT -5
That Wikipedia page is probably written by some of you guys. The imdb speculation could easily have been written by me. I wrote a speculative entry about going to Cannes or not.
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Post by Zotyto on Jul 28, 2015 7:08:24 GMT -5
Just in case some know-it-all changes it...
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Post by nas78 on Dec 12, 2015 5:07:33 GMT -5
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Post by sikri06 on Dec 12, 2015 10:42:57 GMT -5
Cannes is much better suited than Berlin.
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Post by will on Mar 4, 2016 15:35:36 GMT -5
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