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Post by foeller on Jan 24, 2015 12:33:27 GMT -5
Cannes followed by a limited release in November/December and a wide release in January, like Inside Llewyn Davis and Nebraska, would probably make the most sense. In any case, I can't wait.
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Post by Zotyto on Jan 24, 2015 13:28:22 GMT -5
Kundun and The Last Temptation of Christ, which are similar movie projects, both got released during the second part of the year. The Last Temptation in August/September (limited) and Kundun in December.
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Post by sikri06 on Jan 24, 2015 17:53:46 GMT -5
Kundun got some below the line nominations and The Last Temptation of Christ got one nomination for Best Director and were both among the biggest financial flops in Marty's career. For the last 20 years religious films has not played well with the academy. You would have to go back to the 50's with The Ten Commandments and Ben Hur to find religious movies really embraced by the academy. They have been rejected time and time again for consideration in major categories. Kundun only got nominations in technical categories. It's not the sort of nominations that gets the attention of the general public and I feel it would be a waste of time to chase them. Time Marty could spent developing his next films instead.
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Post by FilmFan on Jan 25, 2015 14:50:45 GMT -5
Don't know why this is a discussion. Paramount earmarked SILENCE for a November 2015 release date when they hadn't even given it full funding. That kinda says what Paramount wants out of Silence in plain writing. An end of the year prestige picture that could make some mid-range profits with a little Oscar push. As I said before, Paramount clearly has little hopes on Silence being a real moneymaker - they would've funded it years ago if they thought it had a chance to pull a real profit - but it's the kind of legacy picture that could pay off in the long run. Plus, I'm sure a part of the discussion with Scorsese is they help get his little passion project made & he agrees do his real potential moneymakers for them. Any executive would be willing to take a small financial loss with a film like Silence if it means in the long run they'd get the first Scorsee's first gangster film with DeNiro in almost 30 years & a glitzy biopic of Frank Sinatra with a mega-cast of movie stars. The best to appease people for that small loss is you make a heavy push for Oscar glory.
Also, I feel comparing Silence's potential success/failure to "The Last Temptation of Christ" & "Kundun" is a very flawed discussion. Things have changed drastically since those two films were released. For one, the Academy has fully embraced Scorsese in a way they never had before. Of the six films he's made since 2000, five have gone on to have a major presence in their respective Academy ceremonies. Not to mention, there's a very big argument to be made that if 'Shutter Island' hadn't been moved from it's prime October 2009 date to February 2010 then that number would've been six - easily the film would've been up for Best Director, Actor, Cinematography & a few more technical awards with most likely a push for Picture too. Of Scorsese's 8 overalll Best Director noms five have happened in the past 13 years. It's pretty much a given right now that as long as Scorsese doesn't churn out a tonal disaster & the movie gets released in the second half of the year then that movie will be a major presence on the Oscar circuit. 'The Departed' & 'The Wolf of Wall Street' aren't what you'd call Oscar friendly films either - the first a violent cops vs. robbers flick & the second a hedonistic amoral black comedy - but Scorsese's name & skills helped get those films listed & in one case won. I'd argue if a younger, less-known filmmaker directed 'The Departed' & did just as good a job as Scorsese I assure you the film wouldn't have won Best Director or Picture. A Scorsese movie is now an event in ways it wasn't before 2000. The Academy notices that now & as Scorsese's "20 Year Passion Project" they'd be sure to get it a major presence in their silly little TV show. (Which is all the Oscars really are)
Two - I can't imagine Silence will have the controversy of 'The Last Temptation of Christ' so it'll play wider & have a greater chance of finding an audience. People are more willing to see challenging small films now then they were in the 80s.
Three - Aside from Liam Neeson I don't feel Silence has a bona-fide star but it'll be easier to sell a movie starring him, 'Spider-man 2.0' & "The Bad Guy From Star Wars: The Force Awakens' to the average moviegoer than it was selling 'A Bunch of East Asian actors you've never heard of' like in 'Kundun'.
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Post by sikri06 on Jan 27, 2015 6:44:42 GMT -5
Marty's usual audience is predominantly on the East and West coast. They are not very religious liberals if not all out atheist. Unless you're a die hard fan like on this board, these people are gonna be put of by the Christian message. That's why I have suggested that you'd have to find a new audience in the heartland of America.
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Post by arnzilla on Jan 27, 2015 10:30:13 GMT -5
"From the heathen who brought you The Last Temptation of Christ comes a a new film that questions faith in our Lord and stomps on the very image of Christ."
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Post by arnzilla on Apr 30, 2015 21:52:08 GMT -5
People Magazine says Garfield finishes shooting in May.
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Post by arnzilla on May 16, 2015 19:04:17 GMT -5
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Post by will on May 17, 2015 17:10:38 GMT -5
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Post by nas78 on May 21, 2015 17:42:00 GMT -5
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Post by sikri06 on May 22, 2015 6:38:03 GMT -5
Great news. I'm still wondering whether the academy will go for it strongly enough to win him his 2nd. The field is kinda weak and filled with previous winners (Spielberg, Inaritu, Danny Boyle, Tom Hooper) who doesn't have a good narrative. Marty only having one Oscar could be a solid reason to give him his second.
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Post by foeller on May 22, 2015 7:04:27 GMT -5
"reportedly" is the keyword if you ask me. I still doubt it's going to get a 2015 release date.
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Post by will on May 22, 2015 12:56:25 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't remember any such "report". Great news. I'm still wondering whether the academy will go for it strongly enough to win him his 2nd. The field is kinda weak and filled with previous winners (Spielberg, Inaritu, Danny Boyle, Tom Hooper) who doesn't have a good narrative. Marty only having one Oscar could be a solid reason to give him his second. It'd be great to be recognized for this film. If Scorsese doesn't have any of his TV things to do between now and fall, he might devote himself completely to Silence. Also, maybe one of those weird contracts/settlements for Silence had a requirement for a specific year of release.
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Post by arnzilla on May 22, 2015 17:06:32 GMT -5
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Post by ScorseseFan on May 23, 2015 0:13:05 GMT -5
He could finish SILENCE by the end of the year sure, but I don't see the movie getting released until 2016. Unlike 2014, the last two months of the 2015 are just too crowded this high quality releases. Spectre, The Peanuts Movie, The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part II (the concluding chapter of the series), Creed, Pixar's The Good Dinosaur, Ridley Scott's The Martian, Jeff Nichols Midnight Special, X-Mas, Ron Howard's In the Heart of the Sea, Sisters, Oliver Stone's Snowden, David O. Russell's next Jennifer Lawrence/Bradley Cooper movie Joy, Quentin Tarantino's 70mm epic The Hateful Eight & some small indie called Star Wars: Episode 7 - The Force Awakens.
That's A LOT of movies appealing to everyone in the last 60 days of the year. Maybe Scorsese could rush the film to get it to play in one or two theaters for eligibility at the Oscars & then go wider in January but why rush?
Until I hear from Scorsere's team I'm expecting 2016. Either a late March/early April release to tie into Easter - like Darren Aronofsky's Noah - OR they'll hold off until Fall 2016 which isn't so packed yet to get a prime release then.
Plus hey, if Scorsese finishes Silence early in 2016 & dives into shooting his next movie later that same year - The Irishman perhaps? - he could maybe have that ready in 2017. Two Scorsese films in the span of a year? Stranger things have happened.
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