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Post by will on Dec 16, 2013 14:37:27 GMT -5
The Critics Choice nominations that Wolf received:
Best Picture "American Hustle" "Captain Phillips" "Dallas Buyers Club" "Gravity" "Her" "Inside Llewyn Davis" "Nebraska" "Saving Mr. Banks" "12 Years a Slave" "The Wolf of Wall Street"
Best Director Alfonso Cuarón, "Gravity" Paul Greengrass, "Captain Phillips" Spike Jonze, "Her" Steve McQueen, "12 Years a Slave" David O. Russell, "American Hustle" Martin Scorsese, "The Wolf of Wall Street"
Best Acting Ensemble "American Hustle" "August: Osage County" "Lee Daniels’ The Butler" "Nebraska" "12 Years a Slave" "The Wolf of Wall Street"
Best Adapted Screenplay "August: Osage County" "Before Midnight" "Captain Phillips" "Philomena" "12 Years a Slave" "The Wolf of Wall Street"
Best Editing "American Hustle" "Captain Phillips" "Gravity" "Rush" "12 Years a Slave" "The Wolf of Wall Street"
Best Actor in a Comedy Christian Bale, "American Hustle" Leonardo DiCaprio, "The Wolf of Wall Street" James Gandolfini, "Enough Said" Simon Pegg, "The World’s End" Sam Rockwell, "The Way Way Back"
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Post by piglet on Dec 16, 2013 14:44:37 GMT -5
All these tweets from Feinberg, Wells, etc. about Leo never having been better and all he gets is a lousy best actor in a comedy? I guess he's going to have to cure cancer to get another Oscar nomination. Sure hope he doesn't care.
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Post by kim on Dec 16, 2013 15:29:12 GMT -5
Man I pretty much have given up hope he will get nominated for the Oscar now. Even Christian Bale got nominated in the regular leading actor category and Leo didn't, and they loved WOWS. Such a shame that I'll have to bear another year of these stupid Leo memes and Oscar jokes :/
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Post by sikri06 on Dec 16, 2013 16:44:12 GMT -5
Even with 6 nominees Leo wasn't nominated. We probably have to settle for a Picture, director, editing and screenplay nom. at the Oscars. At least Marty got back in the race and should be in with a BAFTA-nomination. It's positive that it got an ensemble nom. That shows support for the film. Leo's last chance is the BAFTA's. Christoph Waltz got in last year with only a BAFTA-nom., but the competition wasn't as tough as this year. I'm preparing myself for another snub.
Like kim the most annoying part for me is having to put up with all the jokes one more time and also the notion that Marty's work with Leo is somehow subpar. I had hoped that it could finally be put to rest once and for all. But it probably means Leo isn't winning for a Scorsese-film in his career, because they will likely only work together one more time (Sinatra). But watch him win for Legacy of Secrecy, the planned mob film with Robert de Niro directed by David O. Russell, instead. That would be ironic.
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Post by kim on Dec 16, 2013 17:07:23 GMT -5
I think Leo will win an Oscar later in his career, probably not anytime soon, like Paul Newman or Al Pacino. It's just so annoying that these jokes and memes will have to continue once again and all the DiCaprio haters will make this awards season unbearable if he indeed does not get nominated in the end. And I too was hoping WOWS would change the notion that all DiCaprio-Scorsese films are overrated and mediocre. It's just disappointing because I really thought after the first few screenings Leo would be able to get nominated but now it's just not looking likely. I could care less about the Oscars but like sikri I'm just tired of bashing and jokes. I thought if Leo got an Oscar nomination everyone could atleast shut up for awhile.
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Post by piglet on Dec 16, 2013 17:40:50 GMT -5
I agree with Kim and Siki06. I don't think DiCaprio should be nominated or win for every movie he makes but geez when you look at actors currently working who have won, it's ridiculous he hasn't. Even with glowing reviews for "The Departed" no major critics group gave him anything. I know many say it's because he's young but he's nearly 40 and other actors have won on their 30's. I'm not sure what critics or Academy voters want from him. I remember when "The Aviator" was filming everyone thought he could never pull off Howard Hughes but he did. Then when "The Departed" was filming, oh he can't play a tough guy. "Blood Diamond" - he can't do accents (and despite what fanboys say, people from South Africa have said his accent was spot on). I read people say he'd never play a bad guy or do a supporting role. Then he did "Django." (And that fiasco was a real kick in the teeth. Not only did he not get nominated, his co-star won). Now he's done comedy, which many said he couldn't pull off, he's gotten raves, at least from early screenings, but still - not good enough. Meanwhile, Jennifer Lawrence at 23 is on her way to a second Oscar. It really pisses me off. I find these groups simply have favorites and for some reason Leo isn't favored by any of them, although I'm not sure why.
Thanks for letting me rant.
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Post by sikri06 on Dec 16, 2013 18:17:35 GMT -5
Lawrence is a woman and that makes all the difference in the world. The academy likes pretty young females + much less competition among actresses, as there is fewer good roles for females. Actors on the other hand and especially leading men has to earn their dues before they get acknowledged.
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Post by piglet on Dec 16, 2013 18:40:11 GMT -5
Lawrence is a woman and that makes all the difference in the world. The academy likes pretty young females + much less competition among actresses, as there is fewer good roles for females. Actors on the other hand and especially leading men has to earn their dues before they get acknowledged. How has DiCaprio not earned his dues? His first Oscar nomination was 20 years ago. He's given numerous award worthy performances, gone from child actor and teen heartthrob to serious actor (no easy feat), never gotten arrested for drugs or smacking cameramen, always promotes his films, seems humble, works hard, etc. He's made boatloads of money for Hollywood (parden the pun) without doing a sequel or comic book character. So how had he not paid his dues?
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Post by foeller on Dec 16, 2013 19:08:05 GMT -5
My goodness, how many of you in here are members exclusively because of DiCaprio? Nothing wrong with that, but criticizing different awards shows for not giving him credit for a film you haven't seen yet seems wrong to me. Also, I don't agree with the fact that he is overdue for an Oscar. You could argue that he deserved the Oscar for The Aviator, but (besides that) there honestly hasn't been a year where he delivered the best performance of the year. He's a great actor, no doubt about it, but I don't feel he's overdue.
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Post by kim on Dec 16, 2013 19:18:22 GMT -5
I have been interested in this project ever since Marty and Leo had the rights for it since 2007. Btw I want to make myself clear, I don't personally feel he is overdue of an Oscar, worthy but not overdue as there's many great performance that came out the years he was in contention and I consider other actors way more due than him, such as Gary Oldman. Really the main reason I'm hoping he can sneak in is so the annoying Leo Oscar jokes and complaints of why he hasn't won already can stop already. I spend time on the IMDB boards so that may influence my opinions, because that board has members that have been rooting against this film for awhile and all they did was talk about Leo's Oscar chances nonstop which I got pretty sick of, so I came here instead. I never thought WOWS would be a big Oscar contender after reading the screenplay and I don't care if it isn't, I just hope the reviews are good enough. This has been my most anticipated all year, awards are not the main thing in my mind when it comes to this movie. Sorry if it came across as so. And really, I'm more interesting in watching the thing already. Some of the ecstatic reviews that were leaked have me pumped, I don't care if it's a big awards player or not. But I can't lie it'd be nice to Marty at least nominated, as his direction has been getting serious raves.
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Post by kim on Dec 16, 2013 19:44:03 GMT -5
...I'll stop the Oscar talk btw. Anyways, WOWS did good at the Dallas Ft Worth Film Critics Association. Jonah Hill finally gets a mention! www.dfwcritics.com/2013/12/16/dfw-film-critics-name-12-years-a-slave-as-top-film-of-2013/The Dallas-Fort Worth Film Critics Association voted the historical drama 12 YEARS A SLAVE as the best film of 2013, according to the results of its 20th annual critics’ poll released today. Rounding out the composite list of the top 10 films of the year were GRAVITY (2), NEBRASKA (3), AMERICAN HUSTLE (4), DALLAS BUYERS CLUB (5), HER (6), THE WOLF OF WALL STREET (7), INSIDE LLEWYN DAVIS (8), CAPTAIN PHILLIPS (9) and MUD (10). For Best Actor, the association named Matthew McConaughey for DALLAS BUYERS CLUB. Runners-up included Chiwetel Ejiofor for 12 YEARS A SLAVE (2), Bruce Dern for NEBRASKA (3), Tom Hanks for CAPTAIN PHILLIPS (4) and Leonardo DiCaprio for THE WOLF OF WALL STREET (5). In the Best Supporting Actor category, the winner was Jared Leto for DALLAS BUYERS CLUB. He was followed by Michael Fassbender for 12 YEARS A SLAVE (2), Barkhad Abdi for CAPTAIN PHILLIPS (3), Daniel Bruhl for RUSH (4) and Jonah Hill for THE WOLF OF WALL STREET (5). Alfonso Cuaron was voted Best Director for GRAVITY. Next in the voting were Steve McQueen for 12 YEARS A SLAVE (2), Alexander Payne for NEBRASKA (3), David O. Russell for AMERICAN HUSTLE (4) and Martin Scorsese for THE WOLF OF WALL STREET (5).
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Post by foeller on Dec 16, 2013 19:52:10 GMT -5
I have been interested in this project ever since Marty and Leo had the rights for it since 2007. Btw I want to make myself clear, I don't personally feel he is overdue of an Oscar, worthy but not overdue as there's many great performance that came out the years he was in contention and I consider other actors way more due than him, such as Gary Oldman. Really the main reason I'm hoping he can sneak in is so the annoying Leo Oscar jokes and complaints of why he hasn't won already can stop already. I spend time on the IMDB boards so that may influence my opinions, because that board has members that have been rooting against this film for awhile and all they did was talk about Leo's Oscar chances nonstop which I got pretty sick of, so I came here instead. I never thought WOWS would be a big Oscar contender after reading the screenplay and I don't care if it isn't, I just hope the reviews are good enough. This has been my most anticipated all year, awards are not the main thing in my mind when it comes to this movie. Sorry if it came across as so. And really, I'm more interesting in watching the thing already. Some of the ecstatic reviews that were leaked have me pumped, I don't care if it's a big awards player or not. But I can't lie it'd be nice to Marty at least nominated, as his direction has been getting serious raves. The bolded part sounds like the main issue. There are interesting stuff in there, but even more garbage. Anyway, no reason to apologize, but let's watch the movie before we make all the conclusions. I think this has been the most anticipated movie for all of us in here. Let's hope it works out nicely!
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Post by kim on Dec 16, 2013 20:22:42 GMT -5
foeller- Agreed, IMDB is not the best site to be on, especially for me personally speaking. I deleted my account long ago. I'm done talking about awards season for the time being!
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Post by piglet on Dec 16, 2013 20:30:08 GMT -5
My goodness, how many of you in here are members exclusively because of DiCaprio? Nothing wrong with that, but criticizing different awards shows for not giving him credit for a film you haven't seen yet seems wrong to me. Also, I don't agree with the fact that he is overdue for an Oscar. You could argue that he deserved the Oscar for The Aviator, but (besides that) there honestly hasn't been a year where he delivered the best performance of the year. He's a great actor, no doubt about it, but I don't feel he's overdue. Actually, I was a Scorsese fan first and discovered DiCaprio through my appreciation of Scorsese. I never said DiCaprio is "due" an Oscar. I said he had paid his dues. They're two different things. Oscars are not given for the "best" performance anyway. They have a lot more to do with popularity, politics, etc. Given some of those who've won Oscars, often by giving a very good performance in mediocre careers, I think DiCaprio deserves one too. As for not having yet seen the movie, I'm basing my opinion on the raves and "Oscar worthy" comments from early screenings.
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Post by sikri06 on Dec 16, 2013 20:54:24 GMT -5
I learned to love DiCaprio through Marty. And his best performances post-Titanic has been in Marty's films, with the exception of Django Unchained. I'm personally not one of those who thinks he should be nominated for everything. J.Edgar was not a worthy performance compared to Gary Oldman and I think Michael Fassbender was a bigger snub that year. But as I said earlier, I get very annoyed when I hear people describing Marty's work with Leo as subpar. I don't think that is true at all.
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