will
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Post by will on Dec 17, 2013 19:19:38 GMT -5
thanks, kim and peanut What's unfortunate is that such a statement can be so casually made and perhaps taken as factual by those who are not yet familiar with Scorsese's films. Can't post it right now, but I just read a 4-star review by Rex Reed...
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Post by arnzilla on Dec 17, 2013 19:21:53 GMT -5
That's too bad.
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Post by arnzilla on Dec 17, 2013 19:22:52 GMT -5
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Post by will on Dec 17, 2013 19:27:33 GMT -5
"against his better judgement", he says
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Post by piglet on Dec 17, 2013 19:28:40 GMT -5
thanks, kim and peanut What's unfortunate is that such a statement can be so casually made and perhaps taken as factual by those who are not yet familiar with Scorsese's films. Can't post it right now, but I just read a 4-star review by Rex Reed... I agree, Will. I guess this person never saw "Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore." Scorsese often depicts make dominated worlds, but the women in the films are often strong and stand on their own. And Rex Reed? He doesn't like anything!
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Post by arnzilla on Dec 17, 2013 19:33:26 GMT -5
Wolf's up to 91 on the BFCA scale, same as The Departed.
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Post by piglet on Dec 17, 2013 19:36:38 GMT -5
Question about the redemption theme. Two characters that come to mind are Hannibal Lechter and the Javier Bardem character in "No Country a For Old Men." Both were ruthless psychopaths who enjoyed killing and did so with gusto. Neither redeemed himself by the end of the film. Yet both Bardem and Anthony Hopkins who played Lechter won Oscars for their performances and both films won Best Picture. So what is the hang up with this movie? Am I missing something? (And I'm not saying the movie or DiCaprio deserve Oscars - I haven't seen it. Rather I wonder why that criticism is leveled her but not at those films).
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Post by will on Dec 17, 2013 19:43:17 GMT -5
piglet, I'd say that Bardem's character in No Country was thought of as less of a person and more of a representation, so the usual story arc wasn't expected in that case. thanks, arnzilla for the Reed review. I'll read it again, in case he's pranking us.
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Post by arnzilla on Dec 17, 2013 19:48:54 GMT -5
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Post by sikri06 on Dec 17, 2013 20:09:09 GMT -5
Silence of the Lambs is really an exceptional case. The next time as violent as that was embraced by the academy was No Country For Old Men. They both really stands out from other BP winners. Anthony Hopkins' win had something to do with his performance being undeniable. And the movie had Jodie Foster as a likable protagonist to counter the evils of Hannibal Lector. Javier Bardem is a different case because he was the villain, not a protagonist (that was Josh Brolin) and a supporting character. Several actors playing villains have won as a supporting actor like Heath Ledger, Christoph Waltz and Kevin Spacey.
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Post by kim on Dec 17, 2013 20:14:53 GMT -5
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Post by kim on Dec 17, 2013 20:43:53 GMT -5
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Post by arnzilla on Dec 17, 2013 21:59:37 GMT -5
I hope arnzilla will later do the green/red count he always does, but can you estimate how many are in that group so far? Didn't I do that with amateur reviews before the Tomatometer was activated? So far Lumenick, Denby, and Slant are negative.
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Post by arnzilla on Dec 17, 2013 22:12:01 GMT -5
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Post by will on Dec 18, 2013 5:17:53 GMT -5
Rex Reed can't be one of the highly valued critics at Metacritic (reasonably so) because his 100 review was added and it only upped the score 1 point. Didn't I do that with amateur reviews before the Tomatometer was activated? Oh, maybe that was the case...
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